Commentary by AANR President John Kinman
That’s the title of an article that will run (or has run by the time you read this) by the new owner of Pasco Naturally.
For the second time in 15 months, the AANR Board of Trustees voted to suspend the charter of a major club in Florida. The particulars were different, but both centered on the board’s feelings that the marketing practices of the clubs were contrary to our principles and standards related to sexual exploitation of the human body. In 2008, the issue was Caliente which invited swinger groups to sponsor “theme nights” at the resort and planned to sponsor a booth at “Swingfest.” This year it was Paradise Lakes which scheduled a “Miss G String” contest with non-nudist models and planned to air the event on the Playboy Channel under the theme “69 sexy things to do before you die.”
The AANR ruling documents provide that “A charter may be temporarily suspended by the President if charges are filed by the pertinent regional division or the suspension is approved by the board of trustees; such suspension to be effective until the next in-person meeting of the board of trustees.” Suspension is not a finding of guilt. It gives the association time to complete further investigation and gives club management time to develop an appeal before the charter is revoked. In both cases, club management decided to withdraw from AANR before the process could be completed.
Management of both clubs told me that economics were the reason for their decisions. They claim that traditional nudists do not spend the dollars on room rentals, meals and drinks that are necessary for the resort to be profitable. They need to reach another audience with the propensity to spend more money. I understand the problem. AANR, itself, has experienced a drop in membership as have nearly all membership organizations. As we manage our organizations, we need to adapt and do things differently in order to survive. However, we also need to step back and remember what we stand for.
In the past several years, AANR has been very successful in changing public perception about nude recreation. Major media outlets have featured nude recreation as a legitimate recreational choice. AANR has also been very successful in changing the viewpoint of elected officials and government agencies. We have differentiated ourselves from the adult business industry. We are being recognized as the credible voice of reason for nude recreation. The affiliation with AANR has enabled many clubs to get building permits, liquor licenses, and sometimes to be allowed to exist. That public trust cannot be jeopardized.
This past summer, AANR sponsored The AANR World Record Skinny-Dip. Club owners and beach organizers reported that many people participated who had never before been nude in mixed company. The press reports were the greatest we have ever seen for an event. Clubs signed up new members. The event portrayed wholesome family nude recreation. No one confused it with a strip show or a swinger convention. The event told me that, with focused marketing, our resorts and AANR can grow in membership without a sexual tone.
One of the resort owners told me that “the only thing acceptable to AANR is sitting on a log watching a campfire.” I think that most AANR members would disagree with that assessment. Times have certainly changed from the 1950s when I became involved as a child. We have more tolerance. But, most of us see that there is a line which should not be crossed if we are to be true to our brand and to the promises we gave to public officials. The AANR plaque on the wall of a club or participating business needs to stand for something. Sometimes we need to take a stand to enforce that.
I am sorry to lose two clubs with wonderful facilities which have provided a destination resort for many AANR members and potential members. My wife and I have visited both many times. I also feel for the members who have invested thousands of dollars to buy a condominium in a resort that has changed its image. My personal hope is that the management of these resorts re-examine their marketing strategy and agree to uphold the principles and standards of AANR.
After years of fighting for our right to exist, it’s a bit strange to hear from a club owner that we may be “outdated.” We walk a tough line between ultra-conservatives who would outlaw our clubs and the adult industry which wants to piggy-back on our success in bringing public acceptance. We know our niche and what it takes to protect our brand. And, we draw the line.
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Pasco county has a law that restricts sexual entertainment to industrial areas. Why not see if the laws can be effective against activities going on at Paradise and Caliente?
I agree with our President wholeheartedly. I also applaud AANR and nudist clubs who stand up for our standards. I’ve been a nudist since 1978 (my husband since 1968) and we have been members off and on with AANR, the off times were when we were tight on money and recreation came last after our sons. We have raised both of our sons in the family oriented nudist lifestyle. Now our youngest son is living and raising his children at Star Ranch here in McDade, Texas. My son and his wife would never consider going to a club where their children were not welcome. While I understand that swingers are everywhere and to quote Jim Tervort “not going away”, I also believe that families who travel with their children would rather go where their children are welcome. And, economically speaking, most nudist clubs are less expensive than textile hotels or resorts and offer more amenities and activities! So if you are a family nudist and reading this … spend your money at the AANR or family nudist club nearest you!
One blog stated that young people are more open to swinging and we need to change our atmosphere’s to accommodate them. I don’t believe that, most of the young people I have spoken with concerning the matter think “open” swinging is just not cool. Our club is not stuffy, we have lots of activities, and we are growing our younger membership base. It is one membership at a time, but it is happening. AANR helped with the AANR World Record Skinny Dip. We participated in the AANR World Record Skinny Dip here at Star Ranch and have had several return visitors and new members because of it. Thanks again for all that you do!
I appreciate AANR taking the stand. We do not need the mix of values. This stand is also the very reason AANR needs to maintain a Youth Chair and Committee,,,Yes I know the regions need to suport the youth programs, but if AANR does not maintain a position for the Youths on a national level….we may be putting ourselves in the same position that these two clubs had done !
Lets keep the organization family friendly !
Thanks AANR for taking a Stand !
Hi,
My name is Tom Mulhall. My wife and I own The Terra Cotta Inn, Palm Springs, CA. I agree with John Kinman and AANR concerning sexual activites at nudist resorts. If we want nude recreation to be accepted as a legitimate recreation choice, we have to keep open sexual activity out of nudist resorts.
In my opinion, you have to operate your resort just like a Marriott or Hilton. However, nudists will have way more fun and get better suntans.
Now John makes a very good point. He says “Management of both clubs told me that economics were the reason for their decisions. They claim that traditional nudists do not spend the dollars on room rentals, meals and drinks that are necessary for the resort to be profitable.”
He is right.
What I find very hard to swallow is we have AANR members who will spend $5000-$8000 going to naked places in Mexico or the Caribbean that are owned by non nudists and then complain because they want to stay on a Saturday night in high season when everyone else is staying for a week or longer. And our rates in the summer are as low as $859/week including breakfast and daily snacks. ANNR members should be vacationing with us or other resorts in teh US, not the non nudist owned naked places in the Caribbean and Mexico.
I also know former AANR and TNS members, who go to the Caribbean or Mexico to these non nudist owned naked places and say “oh we dropped our AANR or TNS membership. It’s too expensive.”
If AANR members want nice nudist resorts in the US, then they have to support American nudist resorts and AANR. They have to stop going to Mexico and the Caribbean and staying at non nudist owned naked places.
If you go to Mexico or the Caribbean and don’t support Cypress Cove, Como, Terra Cotta Inn, your local club, etc by taking your vacations at the nice nudist resorts in America, then you have no right to complain when places like Caliente and Paradise decide for economic reasons to not belong to AANR any more.
We are a 17 room Inn. Yet, I bet less than 20% of our guests belong to AANR or TNS. If we didn’t cater to first timers (who then become our repeat guests), we would not be able to stay in business as AANR members do not support us enough to stay in business.
Support AANR resorts and clubs. Also make sure you renew your AANR membership. Keep nudism thriving in America!
I am just SICK about the direction Paradise and Caliente have taken all in the name of GREED.
I own property there and it is now a nightmare.
AANR did the right thing for nude recreation.
I agree with President Kinman. Keep it above board.
However, here’s a somewhat related issue. I am a member of both AANR, and separately, a member of TNS. I have been interested in joining one of our local (Southern California) nudist resorts. There are three reasonably close to me, 2-3 hours away.
Recently, I drove out with my lady friend to one of them to visit, get information, and see the facility. I had trouble finding them, so called them from nearby. I was told that they did not accept prospective members for visits, except on Fri-Sat-Sun. Unfortunately, it was a weekday. The lady on the phone was civil, but not particularly friendly. Since I work Fridays and weekends, this now becomes somewhat difficult.
A month later, I decided to try the two other facilities. Having Learned my lesson, I called them first, and found that they accept visitors any day of the week.
Since my friend was working this time, I went out there alone. The first club I visited had just changed management. They were very friendly, gave me lots of information about their club, but told me I couldn’t visit by myself. They wanted couples. I explained that we were interested as a couple, but to no avail. They said come back sometime together.
So, I went to the second club. This time I was met by a very unfriendly lady who said she was the manager. She also said no visit, except as a couple.
So now, a three hour drive home, all for nothing. I guess I didn’t know enough to ask the right questions on the phone.
Quite interesting. According to everything I read, the nudist world is trying to get more members. I readily admit to not being in their preferred group, as I am older. But my friend is in her late 30’s. We also have 3 other couples, friends in their 30’s, who are interested. They are sort of following my lead.
But no one seems interested in even finding out about us, or allowing us to find out about them.
So how do you suggest we might proceed?
Note to Tom Mulhall: We’d be glad to spend some time and money at the Terra Cotta Inn.
I’ve been a Florida resident member of AANR for 10+ years now and I support the nudist lifestyle. Over the past few years (ever since Caliente was built) it became obvious were the interest and current popular trend in nudism is. I visit both Paradise Lakes and Caliente by spending long weekends at each several times per year. On a recent excursion I tried to get a reservation at Caliente but the motel was booked, yet I easily reserved a pool side “Cabana” :) at Paradise. Saturday afternoon at Paradise, sunny 90+ degrees, and there wasn’t more than two dozen people around the pool. Ten years ago on a similar weekend that place was packed. Paradise is not as clean as it used to be either, they desparatly need to pressure wash the pavers around the conversation pool and in front of the cabanas. I perfer the layout at Paradise because your room is close to the pool and bar, I don’t like having to hike through the clubhouse at Caliente everytime I’d like to take a dip or get a drink. Yet I perfer Caliente because the crowd is younger and more active
Thank you AANR for sticking to your guns.
When I first introduced my wife to nudism 20 years ago the first place I took her was White Tail Park. She had such a positive first time experience she became a nudist for life.
My wife has stated over and over if I hadn’t taken her to a true AANR nudist resort first like White Tail Park, she likely never would have tried another one ever again, falling prey to stereotype that nudist were just over sexed group of people that like to hang around naked.
Keep up the good work AANR board we support you 100%
if I behaved with my husband the way they are allowing people to act sexualy we would have been booted out and we have been approached by many swing couples paradise lakes has been long known as a swinger haven and caliente and the body perfect pierced in sexual places 25 years ago nudist resorts were not like this it is now all about the mighty buck
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Nudism/naturist is a way of life I agree with our President and AANR policy. It is difficult enough to obtain and keep up with our freedom to live our way and share with others.
I applaud AANR President John Kinman. He is absolutely correct. I can not imagine the Federal Government allowing the sort of activity on Gunnison’s Beach that the two clubs, Paradise and Caliente, believe is essential for their existence.
Anyone that strays from “family enjoyment” of the beach would have a Park Ranger escorting the violator off the beach while those nearby applaud. We know what we have and it is not prude but it is not lewd. Children are welcome and protected.
I noticed a lot of new faces on Gunnison Beach this year. Many of those faces were young. It is a good sign that new people and families want the experience of social nudism without the fear of being sexually abused and exploited.
The owners of condos in those two clubs should sue for damages. If I owned in either of these clubs I would want these clubs to buy back my unit at a price where I could go elsewhere and enjoy the family non-sexual environment I bought and paid for.
The AANR should not only have suspended the charters of these two clubs but should also seek to make a public statement and show they are concerned about their principals by actively educating the public about the difference between social and lewd activity.
These two clubs withdrew from AANR showing they would rather destroy social nudism rather than find creative ways to introduce social nudism to those who are curious but have not yet experienced social nudism. These clubs have the potential of destroying what took decades to establish. The misconception would set back public acceptance of social nudism and possibly add enough public protest where everyone would loose their right to enjoy social nudism because the public did not understand the difference between nude and lewd. The business model proposed by these two clubs sound like is lewd and indecent and against public morals. If you can not take children to these resorts the resorts should not be allowed to operate.
AANR should suggest to member clubs that they clean up and renovate their businesses then offer half price fees or even free first time visits for initial visits to introduce those first timers to social nudism. The clubs have nothing to loose but what if they invite, educate and increase their membership or visitors, they have everything to gain. Now is not the time to cut back and skimp on maintenance and services, as that would only drive away members and visitors.
Pasco County should inspect and close down the resorts if they stray from the accepted business model of social nudism.
I step down off my soap box hoping this will help preserve social nudism.
Dave Mayo
Unfortunately, this is a very timely discussion for me.
For many years I was a member of Riverside Ranch in San Antonio, Texas. Three summers ago(2006) the owners dropped their AANR membership. Two summers ago (2007), rain every weekend and the river flooding, nearly put them out of business. Last summer (2008), as I was leaving Texas to move to Georgia, the owners opened the resort to swingers as a way to remain economically viable.
For awhile I thought that the nudists and swingers could coexist and that all would be fine.
When I was back in May, I was disgusted by the sex that I saw in the pool. I thought, okay, maybe that was a one time thing.
A few weeks ago I was on the phone with one of my friends, who was very upset with the owners at Riverside Ranch. A well known member and friend to everyone was thrown out over the summer. Many of our friends have left. There is sex out in the open.
I’m heartbroken. The place that I’ve considered “home” is gone. Paradise has become hell in short order.
I’m making my new “home” here in Georgia at Serendipity.
I live in TN and have long been a nudist I visit a club in TT and one in N. Georgia on a regular basis and go down to Florida 3 to 4 times each year. All of the resorts that I go to have severed their affiliation with AANR and I think are better for it. They seem to have a much more lively crowd and are able to fill the places up on the weekends and other than afew special weekends that they promote for swingers or some fashion show they are not that much different. I have never observed any sexual activities at any of these durring daylight hours and what you see after dark is petting and playing around it is harmless. None of these places allow open blatant sexual activity. I will have to think long and hard about renewing my membership even though all of the places I go still honor my AANR membership and give me discounts. I think it is time that AANR rethink their position and make room for a different knd of resort lifestyle no one is saying the old has to be made extinct just that their is more out there. I think the two lifestyles can coexist as long as everyone know what they are getting when they go thru the gate. I am not one that necesarrily would promote the sexual content but I like having places that you can go at times that are adult oriented and do not have children.
My wife and myself became AANR members in 2008. It took me seven years of convincing to get my wife to visit a nudist club. In order to convince her to go I made an example of AANR’s values. She was concerned that she would be placed in a sexually harassing environment or the whole experience would be just an indulgence for me. I’m grateful to the AANR for making nudism a respectable activity for both of us to enjoy.
We are both Gen X’ers, the next generation of family friendly nudists. Our generation is the “young” future nudists that clubs want to attract and clubs must not forget the fact that Gen X’ers have children. We don’t want to visit a club that could cause a marital problem by encouraging sexual activity with strangers, alienating women by indulging men or discriminating against children and their family. Gen X’ers want their experience at a club to be a beneficial one for the whole family.
I applaud AANR’s decision to take a stand for respectable values and practices at clubs. Clubs that sacrifice fostering an environment of mutual respect in order to become more profitable will eventually fail. Alienating someone in order to cater to someone else is a self destructive business practice.
Yes, we are currently living in a tough economic time and we have to spend the money we have very carefully, but that is not any reason to lower moral standards. This is why I am pleased to see that the president, trustees, and members of AANR are standing up and saying “NO” to resorts that want to destroy nonsexual social nudism because those resort owners do not know how to think outside of the box to gain more members or are just greedy. Just because the revenues are not as high as they once were is not any reason to lower your standards and destroy the hard work others have put in to make social nudity more acceptable.
Like, Gina B., I have visited Riverside Ranch in Elmendorf, Texas, which is near San Antonio, Texas, and would say it WAS a nice quiet place to visit when wanting to get away from the big city. Even though there were not very many activities and the grounds were cared for enough to be considered safe, I enjoyed going there because of the people I met who made me feel welcomed there each time I visited. Yes, I am angry that the owners of Riverside Ranch have turned the resort from family friendly to something no person with good morals should ever visit, but I can happily say Riverside Ranch will not see my money ever again unless it reverts back to being family oriented because I refuse to support a resort or club that supports the idea of nudity equaling sexual promiscuity.
Being a person who enjoys visiting clothing free locations is difficult enough in a society that condemns social nudity of any kind, but it is even worse when more family oriented clothing free clubs are turning to the sex industry for higher revenues and giving more ammunition for those who are against nonsexual social nudity to support the false belief that nudity leads to sex. If this trend continues, no one will be able to enjoy social nudism, sexual or not, because all forms of nudity will be illegal. This is why it is extremely important for the leaders and members of AANR, as well as resorts and clubs sponsored by AANR, to stand their ground and work even smarter than those who want to destroy the ability to be clothing free without being subjected to sexual promiscuity.
As AANR Florida members Sandy and I have visited resorts in Florida and we both applaud Mr. John Kinman’s comments and Ted’s (Cyress Cove) comments on drawing the line when it comes to clothing free livestyle and not tolerating open sexual events, etc. As members of Cypress Cove Resort we have always been respectfully received and enjoy the nudist lifestyle provided to all guest. We visit the Cove often and have stayed at the hotel on numerous occasions. The entire staff at the Cove always provides a respectful environment to all who believe in and enjoy the clothing free lifestyle without sexual content on the property or any events.
Sandy and I sincerely hope AANR and their respective clubs will hold there ground and not sway away from the the values established by AANR many years ago. Sexual promiscuity belongs in the bedroom and not in public.
Thank you for the opportunity to voice my opinion concerning this important subject.
We have been enjoying nudism/naturism since our first experience in 1998. We highly value the relaxed family environmemnt we have grown to treasure at family nudist resorts. The opportunity to experience nudism is much too valuable to allow swingers to reverse the positive gains we as nudists have worked so diligently to achieve in the opinions of the general public.
It should be known that true nudists do not want to be referred to as wingers because we are not. We are not here to condemn swingers. Swingers have a right to be who they are, an to conduct the activities they want. We just say do not use the banner of nudism to promote a sexually exploited lifestyle at the expense of harming the reputation nudists have worked so hard to achieve. We love nudism so much that we stay at nudist resorts when we travel, in addition to making nude resorts our preferred destinations for vacationing. The sense of community in socially nude venues provides a sense of good family fiendly fun we need. We are glad the AANR gas taken a stand for the values we care about.
I was reading what Ralph had to say, and I am not surprised. Why is it, that the Nudist Recreation community is still allowed to practice sexism, reacism, and homophobia. We have found that there are many couples (straight and gay) who are turned away from clubs. Many things need to be changed. Like these outdated rules:
1) We only accept couples.
*Meaning if your a single straight or gay man, then stay the hell off our property.
2) We allow single women.
*Meaning to supposedly balance the sexes at a resort. This is hogwash, as single women are usually prayed upon at these clubs.
3) Gay men not allowed. We only allow couples.
*Meaning: gay people must be sex crazed maniacs, and we can only allow couples to keep our resort safe.
4) Couples allowed.
*Meaning you must be white to be allowed in the doors, and even if your a minority couple; please dont knock on our door.
You may think I went off on a tangent here, but we have been to many resorts and not been allowed in the door. We happen to be an inter-racial gay couple. We have been together for 17 years, and have two children. So- we end up having to tell our children when being turned away, “We are not their idea of a couple. We are gay so they think we are all single and only interested in sex. Your dad is black, and many white people still arent comfortable around minorities. We will have fun at another resort.” Then- we get to another club and the same thing happens. Now what do you say to the kids, who only want to get into the pool and have some fun?
Do these clubs realize that gay people, single people, and minorities are protected under federal law, and these guidelines and rules are ILLEGAL? AANR has attorney’s. Maybe they should check into Federal Statutes. Sooner or later, one of these clubs is going to be sued and lose alot of money or their resort. (It wont be us that are suing.)One day, it will happen when another minority has had enough.
I am greatly impressed with AANR. We have gotten so much great info and help from your organization. So- I applaud your stance on keeping Nude Recreation people friendly. I would say “family friendly”, but that usually denotes the sexism, racism, and homophobia.
Sooner or later, the resort and organizations that have illegal guidelines and rules and open sexual behavior will continue to lose money and or their businesses. These businesses who support sex and illegal guidelines in Nude Recreation need to be banned and turned over to the authorities. After all, the members and resorts reflect the image of AANR.
I love AANR, but I dont like your support of these biased rules and guidelines supporting sexism, racism, and homophobia. AANR should have guidelines in place that protect all people, not just straight and white people. Stop being afraid to take a stance, and that you might lose a couple members. Would you rather be known as an open and accepting AANR? Or the racist, homophobic AANR of the past? Could this be the reason, so many minorities and gay people are shying away from AANR?
If you dont believe me, just check out some of the minority boards and websites? I think you will be in for a surprise. (AANR is losing a HUGE customer/member base here in these areas.) Please dont let homophobia and racism be your guide. Dont let the stereotype of gay people only being interested in sex continue. Dont let racism continue to drive away our minority family. If we are truly about: Body Acceptance equals Body Freedom. Then we should allow all bodies.
AANR is the leader in our country in Nude Recreation. I hope to see AANR continue to use this influence in positive directions.
Thank you for allowing my to share my opinion and thoughts on your being outdated.
Again, overall we love AANR, but would like to see a few things changed.
Thank you for all your hard work in Nude Recreation! :)
While I do agree that AANR should be for clothing optional and nudist resorts that are family oriented, I don’t understand why their members, club owners and officials, can’t just let clubs like Paradise Lakes, and Riverside and others that are for adults only be left alone.
Nudists want to be accepted for who you they are but seem to want to say anyone who does not have the same beliefs as you should be shut down.
Sexuality is a part of life. How people express their sexuality is different for everyone. If there are those that want to have a clothing optional resort where sex is more openly accepted, why not? No one requires you go there.
Most people don’t ever want to go to a nudist resort and some want to outlaw it. Would nudists like that? No they continual fight to keep places open.
Then let the clubs that want to cater to sexual activity alone. They should have ever right to do what they want just like you do. And just because there are laws against something that does not make it a good law.
More and more laws that do not allow adults to do what they want is just more and more of taking away personal freedoms. Americans need to fight for personal freedoms rather than make a law against them just because they don’t adhere to your own personal beliefs.
Those that have property at clubs that have changed activity policies then that is different story as you are not getting what you signed up for. The place could have been sold to a non-nudist and you could be stuck living at a textile camp. So you take that chance when you buy property affiliated with a club that can be sold at any moment.
Thanks for reading my opinion.
Hi Folks,
You know, to me it should be up to the private facility/owners that put up all the money and made the facility what it is today. If the club owners want to have couples only then it is up to the club. It the club wants to have nights set aside to allow sex games or whatever then it should be left up to the club. If you don’t like it start your own club. If all you can do is complain then go somewhere else.
By the way, I love Caliente and plan on spending a lot of time there.
Later
Fred Tetterton
Just like the bevy of women that “entertained” Tiger Woods, the Club owners always decide when the precious dollars get tight……sex is the answer……and abandon all platforms of true nudism. Hooray for AANR! Kick as many out as you have too! It is this kind of betrayal by club owners that is keeping socialized nudism from becoming part of main stream America!
In Europe we don’t have these problems because it is accepted by society and supported by law that citizens have the right to own their bodies.
My wife is american and when we go visit my hometown in Europe in summer, it is no problem at all to go to any of the several beaches in which it is accepted that “swimsuits” are not compulsory. Double population density and fewer coast milage than in the US and yet no problems whatsoever.
Here it is supported by law that certain parts of the body are for sex and that human sexuality is not exclusevily owns’ responsibility and based on love and privacy. Naturism is therefore a business. This is how we educate by law.
The enemies of naturism are those who only associate it with their own sexual view of people turned into objects. We must keep cleared off them, they are just an excuse to proponents of limiting even more our rights.
I support ANR decission in getting rid of “business disengaged of purpose or values”, something we have seen during this economic crisis and health care issues.
I tried a nudist facility in the area, but the crowds were very small and the price very high, $45.00 for one day. Can do a swinger facility for $15.00 for a day pass and have the possibility of seeing more people. I agree with the idea that the AANR facilities must maitain the family atmosphere, but they must also be competitive price wise. I would do the nudist facility more if the price was reasonable. Maybe they think they have to keep the “rif-raf” out??? The attitude of the owners and/or management can have a lot to do with the success of the clubs. Have stayed in a couple of “singles accepted” clubs and have been very nicely received.
We are not nudist but I read your article and others and I believe you did the right thing.
Merry Xmas, Sam in Pa.
Wow is it just me or is it simple fact that nudist’s as a general rule are somewhat prudish or maybe I should say holier than thou. All this talk of “Non-Sexual” “Family Oriented” gets a little thick for me. While I am the first to correct the misinformed (and that includes most of the general public) to say there is nothing sensual about nudity is an over statement. Look up sensual in the dictionary and you will see for the most part it defines for me some of then nudist experience.
Also the emphasis on “Couples Only” could be read both ways by the sexual and non sexual points of view. And what about Gay Couples? There is a hot potato I’ve never seen engaged here at AANR? No I don’t think “banning” the Florida club that took a more erotic approach to nudism is a good idea. What should be done is categorization the same way you might rank or rate movies if you will. While I can hear they naysayers crying out I must point out if you are always trying to please your opponents you will get nothing done. Talk to President Obama who spent so much time courting the conservatives he lost touch with his own party and had a horrible time getting much done his first year in office.